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記者:胡總,您認為目前中國工業控製係統安全的發展現狀是怎樣的?
胡總:工信部於2011年出台了451號文件,451號文件的要求是對中國的基礎設施尤其是工業控製網絡進行安全檢測,集中發現問題並給出安全預案。在2011年之後很多企業開始了這方麵的探索,但因為當時缺乏專業的工控網絡安全企業來幫助政府完成任務,所以效果不是很明顯。2013nianzhihou,zhexieqiyekaishiyongxian,baokuogushenxing,yebaokuoyixieguowaidechengshudejishujichanpinkaishijinruzhongguo,shiwoguodegongkonglingyudeyixunsudifazhan。muqiancongguojiadecengmianlaijiangduigongyekongzhiwangluoanquanshifeichangzhongshide,yinweigongyewangluoanquancongbenzhishangjiangshijichusheshianquan,yidanchuxianzhongdadewangluoanquanshigu,yingxianghesunshiwufaguliang。ciwai,qiyelingdaocengyezaifenfenxiangyingguojiadehaozhao,bingduigongkongwangluoanquanzhekuaijijidixiangying,jijicaiqucuoshiluoshi。suoyicongshichangjiaodulaijiang,muqianzhengchuyugongkonganquanshichangbaofadeqianxi,qiyexuyaoqupeiyushichang、把握用戶的需求,把質量可靠的安全產品推廣出去。這個過程一般都有一個試用及摸索的階段,但是,工控安全的前景不可估量。

穀神星網絡科技(北京)有限公司董事長兼CEO 胡浩
記者:您認為保障工業控製網絡安全的核心環節是什麼?
胡總:核he心xin的de環huan節jie就jiu是shi,第di一yi是shi知zhi己ji,需xu要yao對dui整zheng個ge網wang絡luo進jin行xing一yi個ge徹che底di的de了le解jie,做zuo到dao心xin中zhong有you數shu。工gong控kong網wang絡luo到dao底di存cun在zai什shen麼me問wen題ti,有you什shen麼me缺que陷xian和he風feng險xian,我wo們men需xu要yao采cai用yong什shen麼me樣yang的de技ji術shu措cuo施shi,需xu要yao提ti高gao到dao什shen麼me樣yang的de水shui平ping;dierjiushizhibi,jiaruduifangzhidaowodezhexiewentihoutamenhuicaiqushenmeyangdegongjishouduan,dangran,youshihoubentudexinxianquanyekenengshiyinweigongzuorenyuanshiwuhuozhecaozuoyichangdaozhide。name,zhijizhibizhihoune,xuyaojinxingyitaowanzhengdefanghufangan,xuyaojiangwanzhengdefanghufanganbushudaowomendekongzhixitonglimian,zuodaowanwuyishi,tongchangjiagugongkongwangluoanquan,zheshiwomenxuyaozuodejigebuzhou。
記者:qiyeweigongyekongzhixitongbushuchuantongdexinxianquanfanghuchanpinhuicunzainaxiewenti?yuchuantongdexinxianquanfanghutixixiangbi,gongkonganquanxitongcunzainaxiezhuanyexingtedian?
胡總:首先,我們國家工業4.0水平還是比較弱的,很多企業都已經開始投入、jianshezhinenggongchang。ruguojinjinshiduixinxianquanfanghudehua,bazijidegongchangzhenggekongzhixitonghutonghulianleyihou,shijishangshicunzaihendadequexianhefengxiande。youyujiekoudefangkai,heiketongguofangkaidejiekouzhijiegongruwomendexitong,erwomendexitongbenshenzhexiekongzhishebeishicunzaiwangluoanquanloudongde,nametongguoduizhexieloudongdeliyong,huizaochengyidingchengdudepohuaihesunshi。
工gong控kong係xi統tong對dui係xi統tong的de可ke用yong性xing及ji實shi時shi性xing要yao求qiu非fei常chang高gao,而er傳chuan統tong信xin息xi行xing業ye最zui關guan注zhu的de是shi信xin息xi本ben身shen安an全quan,所suo以yi兩liang者zhe的de關guan注zhu點dian不bu一yi樣yang。另ling外wai,工gong控kong行xing業ye中zhong的de工gong控kong產chan品pin更geng新xin換huan代dai周zhou期qi非fei常chang長chang,有you些xie係xi統tong已yi經jing運yun行xing了le十shi幾ji年nian還hai在zai服fu役yi,不bu像xiang現xian在zai的de傳chuan統tong信xin息xi產chan業ye,三san兩liang年nian就jiu要yao更geng新xin換huan代dai,更geng換huan硬ying件jian設she備bei。至zhi於yu軟ruan件jian係xi統tong,傳chuan統tong信xin息xi行xing業ye軟ruan件jian時shi常chang要yao更geng新xin,就jiu算suan更geng新xin失shi敗bai,係xi統tong重zhong啟qi也ye不bu會hui造zao成cheng太tai大da的de影ying響xiang和he損sun失shi。工gong控kong係xi統tong因yin為wei直zhi接jie控kong製zhi生sheng產chan設she備bei,如ru果guo沒mei有you重zhong大da缺que陷xian,在zai不bu影ying響xiang生sheng產chan的de條tiao件jian下xia,不bu允yun許xu更geng新xin升sheng級ji軟ruan件jian,而er且qie硬ying件jian係xi統tong都dou備bei有you冗rong餘yu設she備bei,要yao求qiu控kong製zhi係xi統tong不bu能neng有you無wu計ji劃hua的de停ting機ji或huo者zhe重zhong啟qi,否fou則ze有you可ke能neng引yin起qi重zhong大da生sheng產chan損sun失shi或huo者zhe人ren身shen傷shang害hai事shi故gu。
記者:針對不同行業和不同規模的企業,該如何進行工控安全類產品的選型?
胡總:gongkonganquanchanpindexuanxing,diyizhongyaodeshichanpinyaojishulingxianqiezhiliangkekao,zhiyoucaiyonglexianjindeanquankongzhijishu,cainengbaohuhaogongkongchanpin,dangran,ruguozhiliangbukekao,benshenjiutanbushangduichanpinjinxingyouxiaodebaohule。qici,kanqiyezaiyejiedekoubeiheshichangzhanyoulv,haodechanpin,shichanghuijushoutouzanchengpiao;不bu好hao的de產chan品pin,市shi場chang隻zhi會hui用yong腳jiao投tou票piao了le。最zui後hou,要yao看kan企qi業ye是shi否fou在zai不bu同tong行xing業ye有you應ying用yong案an例li,是shi否fou某mou些xie企qi業ye專zhuan注zhu於yu某mou些xie行xing業ye,通tong常chang需xu求qiu企qi業ye會hui對dui在zai同tong行xing業ye有you業ye績ji的de工gong控kong安an全quan產chan品pin比bi較jiao青qing睞lai。
穀神星的安全防護產品,是通過來自斯坦福大學、卡耐基梅隆大學、清華大學、北bei京jing大da學xue等deng國guo內nei外wai頂ding尖jian大da學xue的de自zi主zhu研yan發fa團tuan隊dui開kai發fa的de,融rong合he了le國guo內nei外wai最zui先xian進jin的de安an全quan架jia構gou和he模mo塊kuai,技ji術shu在zai國guo內nei外wai處chu於yu領ling先xian地di位wei。穀gu神shen星xing在zai國guo內nei重zhong要yao合he作zuo單dan位wei有you工gong業ye控kong製zhi係xi統tong信xin息xi安an全quan技ji術shu國guo家jia工gong程cheng實shi驗yan室shi、工控設備龍頭製造商、工控係統集成商、工控研究方向的科研院所和重點高校、國家和省級測評單位、發fa電dian集ji團tuan等deng。公gong司si先xian後hou成cheng為wei了le工gong業ye控kong製zhi安an全quan技ji術shu國guo家jia工gong程cheng實shi驗yan室shi理li事shi會hui理li事shi,工gong業ye控kong製zhi係xi統tong信xin息xi安an全quan產chan業ye聯lian盟meng成cheng員yuan。為wei建jian立li我wo國guo自zi主zhu的de工gong控kong安an全quan防fang護hu體ti係xi,提ti升sheng工gong控kong安an全quan核he心xin競jing爭zheng力li貢gong獻xian了le力li量liang。
記者:隨著去IOE化及國家智能製造的要求,國內工控安全係統廠商將麵臨哪些機會和挑戰?
胡總:dangqiandegongkonganquanhaishibijiaoyanjunde,zhiqianhenduodejichusheshixingyeduizijiderenshibuzu,danshiyouxiexingyezuodehaishihenbucuode。xiangdianlixingyebenlaiyijingcaiqulehengxianggeli,zongxiangjiami,henduoanquancuoshidouyijingyouzijideguifanhebiaozhun,haiyouqitadexingyexiangranqihaiyoushiyoushihua,zaiguanliguifanshangyeyouhenduodecuoshi,birushuoyidongmeijiebunengsuibianshiyong,fengbiwangluohuanjingdeng。zongdelaijiang,womenguojiadeyixiejichusheshixingyebenshenyijingcaiquleyixieguanlifangfancuoshi,haoxiexingyeduianquandeyishizhengzaizhubudezengqiang,duianquandexuyaoyuelaiyueqiang,yuelaiyuegao。miandui“震網事件”、“烏克蘭電網事件”,大da家jia都dou意yi識shi到dao,如ru果guo我wo們men不bu對dui工gong控kong係xi統tong加jia以yi重zhong視shi,不bu去qu安an全quan加jia固gu,造zao成cheng的de後hou果guo就jiu是shi,某mou一yi個ge地di方fang的de基ji礎chu設she施shi發fa生sheng一yi次ci嚴yan重zhong的de網wang絡luo安an全quan事shi故gu之zhi後hou,造zao成cheng的de損sun失shi無wu論lun政zheng治zhi影ying響xiang亦yi或huo是shi經jing濟ji影ying響xiang都dou是shi巨ju大da的de,不bu可ke估gu量liang的de。從cong整zheng個ge市shi場chang的de投tou入ru來lai看kan,我wo國guo現xian在zai對dui工gong控kong網wang絡luo安an全quan這zhe塊kuai投tou入ru相xiang對dui較jiao少shao,一yi年nian隻zhi有you幾ji十shi億yi,還hai不bu到dao一yi百bai億yi的de投tou資zi,而er如ru果guo發fa生sheng一yi起qi安an全quan網wang絡luo事shi故gu,一yi個ge基ji礎chu設she施shi的de損sun失shi就jiu有you可ke能neng超chao過guo百bai億yi。所suo以yi說shuo,這zhe就jiu是shi我wo們men要yao加jia強qiang網wang絡luo基ji礎chu設she施shi安an全quan的de原yuan因yin。除chu了le經jing濟ji和he政zheng治zhi的de影ying響xiang因yin素su,最zui重zhong要yao的de還hai是shi人ren身shen安an全quan,對dui於yu控kong製zhi係xi統tong來lai講jiang,它ta的de最zui大da問wen題ti就jiu是shi會hui涉she及ji到dao人ren身shen安an全quan。穀gu神shen星xing作zuo為wei這zhe一yi行xing業ye的de領ling軍jun企qi業ye,也ye在zai積ji極ji地di與yu各ge個ge行xing業ye,政zheng府fu層ceng麵mian接jie洽qia,我wo們men已yi和he省sheng級ji的de信xin息xi安an全quan測ce評ping中zhong心xin進jin行xing合he作zuo,對dui關guan鍵jian的de企qi業ye進jin行xing檢jian查zha,並bing給gei出chu我wo們men的de解jie決jue方fang案an幫bang他ta們men去qu加jia固gu自zi己ji的de工gong控kong係xi統tong網wang絡luo安an全quan,為wei工gong控kong行xing業ye的de安an全quan貢gong獻xian自zi己ji的de力li量liang。
另外,IOE化對國內廠商,無論是做安全的也好,服務器的也好,操作係統的也好都是一次機會。同時,我們也需要認識到國外對安全的意識、市shi場chang行xing為wei以yi及ji技ji術shu相xiang比bi國guo內nei還hai是shi領ling先xian的de,但dan是shi隨sui著zhe國guo外wai人ren才cai的de回hui歸gui,也ye帶dai回hui來lai一yi些xie比bi較jiao新xin的de理li念nian和he技ji術shu,這zhe使shi得de工gong控kong安an全quan領ling域yu的de整zheng體ti技ji術shu門men檻kan提ti升sheng了le不bu少shao。個ge人ren淺qian見jian:中國的安全企業不能閉門造車,要經常去國外學習、交流、研究國外最新的技術,並根據中國工控企業的實際應用情況消化吸收,研發出先進、可靠的產品出來,迎接即將騰飛的中國工控安全行業的發展。