中國經濟50人論壇2008年年會於2008年2月2日下午,在北京釣魚台國賓館隆重開幕。今年年會的主題是“世界經濟展望與中國麵對的重大問題”。新浪財經獨家網絡直播本次盛會。以下為論壇學術委員會成員、中國改革基金會國民經濟研究所所長樊綱與新浪的對話。
主持人:樊綱老師認為這一次新浪網和50人經濟論壇達成協議,50人經濟論壇是看重了新浪網的什麼呢?
樊綱:我想還是,當然是新浪網受眾範圍廣,而且是新媒體,這個網絡的優勢吧!50renluntanzhexiezhuanjiadouzuolehenduodeyanjiu,namechanganjiangtanyuanlaijiushiyigemianduigongzhongde,yigegongzhongjiangtan,canjiazhedoushimianfeidezheyangyigegongzhongjiangtan,xiangfajiushibazhexiejingjixuedezhishi,bazhexiejingjixuejiasuoyanjiudechengguogengduodexiangshehuijieshao,nadangzhongyouyixieshimeitidejizhe、編(bian)輯(ji),參(can)加(jia)這(zhe)個(ge)活(huo)動(dong),但(dan)是(shi)畢(bi)竟(jing)局(ju)限(xian)性(xing)還(hai)是(shi)大(da)了(le)點(dian),想(xiang)通(tong)過(guo)跟(gen)新(xin)浪(lang)網(wang)這(zhe)樣(yang)一(yi)個(ge)大(da)的(de)媒(mei)體(ti)網(wang)絡(luo)合(he)作(zuo),可(ke)以(yi)使(shi)更(geng)多(duo)的(de)人(ren)知(zhi)道(dao),這(zhe)些(xie)研(yan)究(jiu)成(cheng)果(guo),這(zhe)些(xie)觀(guan)點(dian),特(te)別(bie)是(shi)對(dui)一(yi)些(xie)大(da)家(jia)所(suo)關(guan)心(xin)的(de)問(wen)題(ti)的(de)比(bi)較(jiao)係(xi)統(tong)性(xing)的(de)分(fen)析(xi),有(you)的(de)時(shi)候(hou)網(wang)上(shang)是(shi)一(yi)些(xie)隻(zhi)言(yan)片(pian)語(yu),往(wang)往(wang)抓(zhua)住(zhu)一(yi)些(xie)極(ji)端(duan)的(de)東(dong)西(xi),但(dan)是(shi)缺(que)一(yi)些(xie)係(xi)統(tong)性(xing)的(de)分(fen)析(xi),那(na)麼(me)在(zai)長(chang)安(an)講(jiang)壇(tan)做(zuo)的(de)都(dou)是(shi)係(xi)統(tong)性(xing)的(de)分(fen)析(xi),都(dou)是(shi)對(dui)一(yi)方(fang)麵(mian)的(de)問(wen)題(ti)經(jing)過(guo)研(yan)究(jiu),經(jing)過(guo)深(shen)入(ru)的(de)長(chang)期(qi)的(de)研(yan)究(jiu),展(zhan)現(xian)給(gei)聽(ting)眾(zhong),展(zhan)現(xian)給(gei)讀(du)者(zhe)這(zhe)樣(yang)的(de)一(yi)種(zhong)係(xi)統(tong)性(xing)的(de)分(fen)析(xi),這(zhe)也(ye)是(shi)我(wo)們(men)媒(mei)體(ti)現(xian)在(zai)所(suo)需(xu)要(yao)的(de),也(ye)是(shi)我(wo)們(men)公(gong)眾(zhong)對(dui)關(guan)心(xin)這(zhe)些(xie)問(wen)題(ti)的(de)公(gong)眾(zhong)所(suo)需(xu)要(yao)的(de),通(tong)過(guo)這(zhe)樣(yang)一(yi)個(ge)合(he)作(zuo),我(wo)想(xiang)通(tong)過(guo)新(xin)浪(lang)網(wang)直(zhi)播(bo)的(de)形(xing)式(shi),大(da)概(gai)是(shi)直(zhi)播(bo)的(de)形(xing)式(shi)吧(ba),使(shi)大(da)家(jia)能(neng)夠(gou)更(geng)係(xi)統(tong)的(de)了(le)解(jie)我(wo)們(men)現(xian)在(zai)麵(mian)臨(lin)的(de)各(ge)種(zhong)經(jing)濟(ji)問(wen)題(ti)。
主持人:提(ti)到(dao)當(dang)前(qian)的(de)宏(hong)觀(guan)調(tiao)控(kong)政(zheng)策(ce),我(wo)們(men)知(zhi)道(dao)現(xian)在(zai)貨(huo)幣(bi)政(zheng)策(ce)是(shi)一(yi)個(ge)從(cong)緊(jin)的(de)調(tiao)控(kong)的(de)基(ji)調(tiao),那(na)當(dang)前(qian)麵(mian)對(dui)國(guo)內(nei)的(de)雪(xue)災(zai)還(hai)有(you)國(guo)際(ji)資(zi)本(ben)市(shi)場(chang)的(de)那(na)些(xie)危(wei)機(ji),您(nin)覺(jiao)得(de)當(dang)前(qian)的(de)貨(huo)幣(bi)政(zheng)策(ce)有(you)沒(mei)有(you)做(zuo)一(yi)些(xie)微(wei)調(tiao)呢(ne)?
樊綱:這zhe一yi塊kuai我wo首shou先xian要yao解jie釋shi一yi個ge問wen題ti,就jiu是shi什shen麼me呢ne?宏hong觀guan政zheng策ce特te別bie是shi貨huo幣bi政zheng策ce從cong來lai就jiu是shi短duan期qi政zheng策ce。什shen麼me意yi思si呢ne?什shen麼me叫jiao短duan期qi呢ne?就jiu是shi說shuo是shi根gen據ju總zong供gong求qiu關guan係xi的de變bian化hua而er不bu斷duan的de要yao進jin行xing調tiao整zheng的de,朝chao著zhe這zhe個ge方fang向xiang調tiao,朝chao那na個ge方fang向xiang調tiao,不bu僅jin是shi我wo們men中zhong國guo的de政zheng策ce是shi這zhe樣yang,美mei國guo的de政zheng策ce也ye是shi這zhe樣yang,美mei聯lian儲chu前qian些xie天tian還hai在zai升sheng息xi,現xian在zai大da規gui模mo又you降jiang息xi,也ye許xu過guo兩liang天tian情qing況kuang變bian化hua又you升sheng息xi了le,就jiu是shi說shuo這zhe是shi一yi個ge相xiang機ji抉jue擇ze的de事shi情qing,它ta不bu是shi一yi個ge一yi成cheng不bu變bian的de事shi情qing,過guo去qu我wo們men長chang期qi的de基ji本ben的de方fang向xiang是shi穩wen定ding的de一yi種zhong政zheng策ce,但dan是shi在zai這zhe當dang中zhong也ye是shi不bu斷duan的de發fa生sheng變bian化hua,也ye是shi經jing常chang的de會hui根gen據ju供gong求qiu關guan係xi的de變bian化hua而er逐zhu步bu的de調tiao整zheng的de,那na麼me目mu的de是shi什shen麼me?目mu的de是shi為wei了le中zhong國guo經jing濟ji平ping穩wen的de發fa展zhan,目mu的de不bu是shi為wei了le把ba經jing濟ji搞gao死si,更geng不bu是shi搞gao出chu一yi個ge泡pao沫mo來lai,而er是shi為wei了le讓rang它ta減jian少shao波bo動dong,能neng夠gou穩wen定ding發fa展zhan,因yin此ci我wo個ge人ren相xiang信xin,決jue策ce當dang局ju會hui根gen據ju情qing況kuang的de不bu斷duan變bian化hua,也ye許xu是shi這zhe麼me變bian化hua,也ye許xu還hai那na麼me變bian化hua,來lai調tiao整zheng我wo們men的de宏hong觀guan經jing濟ji政zheng策ce。
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主持人:zhongguoxianzaijinrulejiaxidetongdao,meiguoxianzaiyouchixudejicijiangxi,namezhongmeihuilvchuxianyigedaoguadexianxiang,ninjiaodezheshifouhuigeizhongguorenminbideshengzhidailaigengdadeyali,renminbishengzhishengdaoshenmedifangninjiaodeshigedingdianne?
樊綱:這zhe個ge沒mei有you評ping論lun,這zhe由you決jue策ce者zhe們men來lai分fen析xi,來lai定ding的de問wen題ti,至zhi於yu說shuo人ren民min幣bi,人ren民min幣bi的de升sheng值zhi它ta是shi一yi個ge經jing濟ji關guan係xi變bian化hua的de結jie果guo,一yi方fang麵mian由you我wo們men的de這zhe方fang麵mian的de經jing濟ji的de實shi力li的de變bian化hua,我wo們men的de生sheng產chan率lv的de提ti高gao,我wo們men這zhe些xie年nian效xiao率lv的de改gai進jin,改gai革ge開kai放fang以yi後hou我wo們men技ji術shu的de進jin步bu等deng等deng,這zhe些xie都dou使shi生sheng產chan率lv在zai不bu斷duan的de提ti高gao,生sheng產chan率lv在zai不bu斷duan提ti高gao,就jiu相xiang當dang於yu你ni這zhe個ge國guo家jia這zhe些xie東dong西xi就jiu更geng值zhi錢qian了le,你ni的de能neng力li就jiu更geng強qiang了le,因yin此ci經jing濟ji發fa展zhan到dao了le一yi定ding的de階jie段duan,每mei個ge國guo家jia都dou有you一yi個ge升sheng值zhi的de過guo程cheng。
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主持人:美國這一次發生次按危機之後股市一直下跌,美聯儲連續降息降稅來提高市場的信心,針對目前國內A股市場下跌的情況,也有一些人呼籲政府應該適當的救市,而這並不違背經濟市場的本意,您怎麼看這個觀點?
樊綱:我(wo)對(dui)此(ci)沒(mei)有(you)評(ping)價(jia),我(wo)也(ye)不(bu)研(yan)究(jiu)股(gu)市(shi)。但(dan)是(shi)美(mei)聯(lian)儲(chu)做(zuo)的(de)事(shi)情(qing)它(ta)首(shou)先(xian)是(shi)保(bao)證(zheng)流(liu)動(dong)性(xing)的(de)供(gong)給(gei),它(ta)首(shou)先(xian)是(shi)保(bao)證(zheng)流(liu)動(dong)性(xing)的(de)增(zeng)加(jia)和(he)緩(huan)解(jie)信(xin)貸(dai)萎(wei)縮(suo)這(zhe)件(jian)事(shi)情(qing)。所(suo)以(yi)從(cong)經(jing)濟(ji)當(dang)局(ju)的(de)角(jiao)度(du)來(lai),它(ta)在(zai)一(yi)般(ban)的(de)意(yi)義(yi)上(shang)去(qu)調(tiao)整(zheng)貨(huo)幣(bi)的(de)供(gong)給(gei)和(he)直(zhi)接(jie)去(qu)救(jiu)什(shen)麼(me)市(shi)這(zhe)不(bu)一(yi)樣(yang)的(de)。它(ta)是(shi)通(tong)過(guo)貨(huo)幣(bi)供(gong)給(gei)流(liu)動(dong)性(xing)的(de)這(zhe)種(zhong)調(tiao)整(zheng),間(jian)接(jie)地(di)影(ying)響(xiang)一(yi)些(xie)市(shi)場(chang)的(de)供(gong)求(qiu)關(guan)係(xi),影(ying)響(xiang)市(shi)場(chang)上(shang)人(ren)們(men)的(de)對(dui)經(jing)濟(ji)整(zheng)體(ti)運(yun)行(xing)的(de)信(xin)心(xin)、看法,這是和所謂的救市是不同的。
所suo以yi說shuo,即ji使shi中zhong國guo貨huo幣bi當dang局ju,即ji使shi中zhong國guo的de政zheng府fu麵mian對dui整zheng個ge這zhe種zhong局ju麵mian整zheng個ge經jing濟ji局ju勢shi采cai取qu政zheng策ce調tiao整zheng,我wo相xiang信xin首shou先xian也ye是shi應ying該gai做zuo宏hong觀guan政zheng策ce調tiao整zheng的de事shi情qing。政zheng府fu幹gan預yu微wei觀guan活huo動dong,幹gan預yu市shi場chang活huo動dong,我wo想xiang這zhe個ge你ni不bu管guan是shi壓ya還hai是shi打da,怎zen麼me都dou是shi有you問wen題ti的de,長chang期qi來lai講jiang我wo個ge人ren都dou是shi,我wo個ge人ren我wo也ye是shi對dui此ci也ye保bao留liu看kan法fa的de。宏hong觀guan政zheng策ce是shi大da家jia都dou需xu要yao的de,發fa達da國guo家jia也ye需xu要yao,但dan是shi去qu幹gan預yu微wei觀guan的de一yi些xie活huo動dong,幹gan預yu微wei觀guan的de一yi些xie價jia格ge,幹gan預yu微wei觀guan的de很hen多duo行xing為wei的de約yue束shu和he行xing為wei的de方fang式shi,總zong的de來lai講jiang不bu是shi一yi個ge好hao的de辦ban法fa。至zhi於yu說shuo到dao現xian在zai應ying該gai做zuo什shen麼me,我wo沒mei有you評ping論lun,我wo也ye不bu想xiang評ping論lun這zhe件jian事shi情qing,但dan是shi我wo想xiang我wo們men不bu應ying該gai忘wang記ji了le我wo們men還hai要yao朝chao著zhe市shi場chang化hua的de方fang向xiang更geng多duo的de發fa展zhan,我wo們men的de資zi本ben市shi場chang也ye好hao,更geng多duo的de還hai是shi需xu要yao朝chao市shi場chang化hua的de方fang向xiang發fa展zhan。
你別是市場好的時候要搞市場,市場不好的時候就 qingzhengfulaiganyuzhegeganyunage,daotoulaizhengfubeilebaofushichanghaishibuhao,suoyiwomenhaishiyongyizhongshichangdesiwei,danshichangxuyaohongguantiaokongzheyeshixiandaishichangdeyigeyaoqiu,danshizaiweiguancengcishang,zaishichangdezhegecengmianshangwoshuohaishirangshichangbenshenfahuizuoyongbijiaohaoyidian。
主持人:這一次雪災在某種程度上加劇了某些物價的上漲,有沒有可能覺得由於雪災帶來了更嚴重的通貨膨脹呢?
樊綱:通(tong)貨(huo)膨(peng)脹(zhang)是(shi)一(yi)個(ge)長(chang)期(qi)的(de)概(gai)念(nian),通(tong)貨(huo)膨(peng)脹(zhang)不(bu)是(shi)因(yin)為(wei)一(yi)個(ge)雪(xue)災(zai)導(dao)致(zhi)了(le)一(yi)兩(liang)個(ge)月(yue)的(de)什(shen)麼(me)供(gong)給(gei),供(gong)求(qiu)關(guan)係(xi)的(de)暫(zan)時(shi)的(de)變(bian)化(hua),不(bu)是(shi)這(zhe)個(ge),它(ta)隻(zhi)是(shi)暫(zan)時(shi)的(de)局(ju)部(bu)的(de)這(zhe)種(zhong)價(jia)格(ge)上(shang)漲(zhang),所(suo)以(yi)通(tong)貨(huo)膨(peng)脹(zhang)包(bao)括(kuo)跟(gen)通(tong)貨(huo)膨(peng)脹(zhang)相(xiang)關(guan)的(de)什(shen)麼(me)加(jia)息(xi)不(bu)加(jia)息(xi),你(ni)都(dou)需(xu)要(yao)有(you)一(yi)個(ge)時(shi)間(jian)的(de)概(gai)念(nian),不(bu)是(shi)說(shuo)今(jin)天(tian)就(jiu)調(tiao)了(le),今(jin)天(tian)價(jia)格(ge)上(shang)漲(zhang)了(le),我(wo)馬(ma)上(shang)升(sheng)息(xi),馬(ma)上(shang)就(jiu)通(tong)貨(huo)膨(peng)脹(zhang)高(gao)了(le),第(di)二(er)天(tian)掉(diao)下(xia)來(lai)了(le),完(wan)了(le)降(jiang)息(xi),這(zhe)個(ge)振(zhen)動(dong)太(tai)大(da)了(le),所(suo)以(yi)要(yao)對(dui)此(ci)進(jin)行(xing)區(qu)分(fen)。世(shi)界(jie)糧(liang)食(shi)價(jia)格(ge)上(shang)漲(zhang),世(shi)界(jie)油(you)價(jia)上(shang)漲(zhang),導(dao)致(zhi)的(de)飼(si)料(liao)價(jia)格(ge)上(shang)漲(zhang),導(dao)致(zhi)牛(niu)、牛奶、豬肉價格,這是飼料價格上漲引起的長期的變化是一個問題,我們短期的一個局部有一點兒雪、霜shuang,交jiao通tong產chan生sheng問wen題ti等deng等deng,產chan生sheng的de一yi些xie價jia格ge的de上shang漲zhang,總zong的de來lai講jiang是shi屬shu於yu局ju部bu的de和he短duan期qi的de,這zhe還hai沒mei法fa用yong通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang這zhe個ge詞ci,因yin為wei通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang本ben身shen它ta是shi具ju有you一yi定ding時shi間jian趨qu勢shi的de,它ta是shi在zai一yi定ding時shi期qi之zhi內nei具ju有you總zong體ti這zhe麼me一yi個ge趨qu勢shi的de這zhe樣yang一yi種zhong價jia格ge變bian化hua,這zhe個ge我wo們men要yao加jia以yi區qu分fen,當dang然ran了le困kun難nan是shi要yao克ke服fu,問wen題ti是shi要yao努nu力li解jie決jue,但dan是shi解jie決jue的de方fang法fa要yao根gen據ju它ta性xing質zhi的de不bu同tong有you所suo不bu同tong。
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樊綱:這zhe一yi次ci糧liang食shi漲zhang價jia是shi全quan世shi界jie性xing的de,這zhe一yi點dian我wo們men要yao想xiang清qing楚chu,正zheng是shi因yin為wei全quan世shi界jie漲zhang了le,我wo們men的de農nong產chan品pin的de價jia格ge也ye漲zhang了le,農nong民min的de收shou入ru也ye提ti高gao了le,這zhe是shi我wo們men前qian幾ji年nian討tao論lun農nong民min收shou入ru怎zen麼me提ti高gao的de時shi候hou,有you人ren提ti漲zhang價jia,那na時shi候hou你ni漲zhang不bu了le價jia了le,你ni一yi漲zhang價jia,有you人ren就jiu進jin口kou糧liang食shi,那na農nong產chan品pin價jia格ge又you平ping抑yi下xia去qu了le,所suo以yi在zai這zhe個ge意yi義yi上shang,這zhe當dang然ran是shi好hao事shi,但dan是shi通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang不bu是shi好hao事shi,特te別bie是shi超chao出chu世shi界jie範fan圍wei的de通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang不bu是shi好hao事shi,這zhe種zhong平ping衡heng就jiu是shi我wo們men通tong過guo貨huo幣bi政zheng策ce從cong控kong製zhi需xu求qiu的de角jiao度du,這zhe個ge價jia格ge,然ran後hou增zeng加jia供gong給gei的de角jiao度du,增zeng加jia供gong給gei就jiu是shi價jia格ge上shang來lai以yi後hou,相xiang信xin供gong求qiu關guan係xi會hui發fa生sheng變bian化hua,那na麼me如ru果guo不bu超chao出chu全quan世shi界jie的de通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang的de水shui平ping,那na我wo們men經jing濟ji還hai是shi穩wen定ding的de,現xian在zai需xu要yao認ren識shi的de一yi個ge非fei常chang重zhong要yao的de問wen題ti,現xian在zai的de通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang是shi全quan世shi界jie的de,是shi世shi界jie範fan圍wei的de通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang,原yuan因yin是shi非fei常chang深shen刻ke的de,油you價jia、糧liang價jia這zhe些xie都dou進jin行xing了le上shang升sheng的de周zhou期qi,那na麼me如ru果guo我wo們men因yin為wei需xu求qiu過guo大da,因yin為wei流liu動dong性xing過guo多duo,經jing濟ji過guo熱re導dao致zhi了le額e外wai的de通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang,那na是shi我wo們men要yao特te別bie著zhe重zhong警jing惕ti的de,不bu要yao因yin為wei它ta的de通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang來lai波bo及ji到dao其qi他ta領ling域yu,大da家jia都dou跟gen著zhe漲zhang價jia,各ge種zhong成cheng本ben都dou循xun環huan提ti高gao,如ru果guo需xu求qiu過guo大da的de話hua,貨huo幣bi過guo多duo的de話hua,所suo以yi我wo們men現xian在zai的de問wen題ti在zai於yu如ru何he控kong製zhi我wo們men的de總zong需xu求qiu,不bu使shi這zhe種zhong世shi界jie性xing的de,以yi世shi界jie通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang為wei背bei景jing的de這zhe種zhong價jia格ge上shang漲zhang演yan變bian為wei我wo們men的de供gong求qiu關guan係xi的de嚴yan重zhong失shi調tiao導dao致zhi的de全quan麵mian的de通tong貨huo膨peng脹zhang,所suo以yi這zhe個ge是shi我wo們men現xian在zai要yao著zhe重zhong分fen析xi的de問wen題ti和he解jie決jue的de問wen題ti。
主持人:那08年的經濟走勢您怎麼看?
樊綱:還是挺好的吧!所謂受美國的影響,我們可能低一點,出口稍微少一點,這些是我們原來希望實現的,11點多的增長,太多了。降到10也還是很高,降到9yehaishihengao,jiangleyouderenhuigandaonanshou,danshimeiyouzhegexiaonanshouyihouwomenjiuhuiyoudananshou,nixianzaibutiaozheng,jianglaijingjiguorele,chuxiandadeweijile,najiushidananshou,suoyiwoshuo08年nian出chu一yi點dian兒er小xiao的de調tiao整zheng,這zhe是shi好hao事shi也ye是shi積ji極ji的de,有you人ren老lao說shuo是shi負fu麵mian的de我wo說shuo是shi正zheng麵mian的de,是shi積ji極ji的de,對dui我wo們men中zhong國guo長chang期qi發fa展zhan是shi積ji極ji的de,然ran後hou借jie助zhu世shi界jie經jing濟ji的de調tiao整zheng我wo們men也ye進jin行xing了le我wo們men的de調tiao整zheng,也ye是shi積ji極ji的de,我wo們men結jie構gou當dang中zhong有you很hen多duo問wen題ti,借jie助zhu他ta這zhe種zhong調tiao整zheng我wo們men也ye需xu要yao實shi現xian更geng多duo的de調tiao整zheng,所suo以yi從cong這zhe個ge意yi義yi上shang來lai講jiang,08年仍然是我們經濟持續增長的一年,也許要進行一些調整,也是在長期增長的過程當中的一定的調整,這我個人還是比較樂觀的。
主持人:謝謝樊綱老師,最後跟我們網友說幾句!
樊綱:在此給新浪網的網友們拜年,祝大家2008年工作順利,身體健康,也希望大家2008年開始到新浪網上看中國經濟50人新浪長安講壇,謝謝。