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如果說鐵道是骨架,機車是肌肉的話,如果能夠讓高鐵高效運行,就需要能量和神經了,央視《交易時間》和大家一起來探討這個相關的板塊,高鐵中的電氣與自動化設備。
電氣化設備:速度記錄的幕後推手
12月3號,隨著我國新一代高速列車CRH380A的運行時速達到486.1公gong裏li,兩liang個ge月yue前qian,剛gang剛gang在zai滬hu杭hang高gao鐵tie試shi運yun行xing時shi,創chuang下xia了le時shi速su紀ji錄lu再zai次ci打da破po,取qu得de這zhe一yi次ci次ci中zhong國guo紀ji錄lu的de背bei後hou,除chu了le鐵tie道dao建jian設she與yu機ji車che技ji術shu達da到dao世shi界jie一yi流liu外wai,保bao證zheng高gao鐵tie高gao效xiao的de電dian氣qi與yu自zi動dong化hua設she備bei同tong樣yang功gong不bu可ke末mo。
黃強(中國鐵道科學研究院首席科學家):隨(sui)著(zhe)客(ke)貨(huo)分(fen)流(liu)以(yi)後(hou),貨(huo)車(che)那(na)一(yi)塊(kuai)大(da)部(bu)分(fen)走(zou)既(ji)有(you)線(xian),客(ke)車(che)大(da)部(bu)分(fen)走(zou)高(gao)速(su)線(xian),那(na)麼(me)既(ji)有(you)線(xian)又(you)有(you)重(zhong)載(zai),重(zhong)載(zai)也(ye)需(xu)要(yao)能(neng)量(liang)來(lai)克(ke)服(fu),也(ye)要(yao)拉(la)東(dong)西(xi),這(zhe)個(ge)時(shi)候(hou)兩(liang)個(ge)逐(zhu)漸(jian)都(dou)把(ba)能(neng)源(yuan)消(xiao)耗(hao)就(jiu)提(ti)高(gao)起(qi)來(lai)了(le),也(ye)就(jiu)是(shi)對(dui)電(dian)力(li)的(de)需(xu)求(qiu)是(shi)越(yue)來(lai)越(yue)大(da)了(le),這(zhe)個(ge)時(shi)候(hou),電(dian)力(li)能(neng)不(bu)能(neng)在(zai)這(zhe)個(ge)地(di)方(fang)為(wei)交(jiao)通(tong)運(yun)輸(shu),為(wei)鐵(tie)路(lu)能(neng)夠(gou)提(ti)供(gong)一(yi)些(xie)能(neng)源(yuan),是(shi)成(cheng)為(wei)一(yi)個(ge)問(wen)題(ti)的(de),所(suo)以(yi)電(dian)網(wang)也(ye)需(xu)要(yao)有(you)很(hen)大(da)的(de)發(fa)展(zhan)。
shijishang,zaitieluzhongyingyongdedianqihuashebeikeangongnengfenweifuzezhijieshengchan,shusong,fenpeiheshiyongdiannengdeyicishebei,hefuzejiance,celiang,kongzhi,baohu,tiaojiedeercishebei。
黃強:wogaosukaoshenmelaibaozhengtadeanquan?wohuibuhuichaosu?wochaosuleyihouqianmianyoumeiyouche?liangchehuibuhuizhuang?zhexieneirongdouyaoyouwomendetongxunxinhaolaishixianzheyangyidian。biruwomenyuanlaijicheshangsijiyaokanxinhao,kanqianmianxinhao,xianzaisijibushikanqianmianxinhao,kanchelixinhaojiukeyile,jiushichelidexinhaoshizhutixinhao,buzaishikanwaitoudexinhaole,waitoudexinhaozhishiyigefuzhuxinhao。
高鐵運營給諸多業內企業帶來機遇
gaotieyunyingduidianqiyuzidonghuashebeidejudaxuqiu,yegeixingyeneidezhuduoqiyedailailexindejiyu,liru,huihuangkeji,zhuyaochanpinweitieluxinhaoweijijiancexitong,yutielufangzaianquanjiancexitong,shougaotiexiangmudaidong,gongsijinnianqiansanjiduyingyeshouruyujinglirun,fenbietongbishangzhang52.58%與45.99%。鼎漢技術,主營信號通信智能電源係統,去年年底至今年年中,共簽訂與高鐵相關合同近6千萬元,占同期總收入的40%。特銳德,主營箱式變電站等產品,公司今年上半年簽訂的重要合同中,與高鐵或客運專線相關的訂單占74.4%,另外還有臥龍電氣,許繼電氣,特變電工等公司均有受益。
計渝:gaosutieludejianshedaidongyixiliechanyefazhan,zaizhexiedachanyezhizhongyouxuduodezixingye,zhexiezixingyedouyincihuodelefeichangdadefazhanjihui,jintianwomenyanboshiqingdaodejiabinshi,zhongxinzhengquandianlishebeidegaojifenxishiyangfan,wohetajiaoliuyixia,zaigaosutielufazhanguochengzhong,dianqizidonghuashebeizhegexingye,tacongzhonghuodezenyangdefazhanjihui?yangfan,womenzhidaozaigaosutieluyunxingguochengzhong,chuletieguihejichezhiwai,hexinhaiyouyigezhongshushenjingxitonghenengyuanxitong,jiushiwomentidaodedianqizidonghuashebeizhegexingye,jiugaotiezhenggejiansheguochengzhong,dianqizidonghuashebeizaizhenggetouzizhezhong,dagaitadebilishishenmeyangdeguanxi?
解析鐵路電氣係統未來發展機會
楊凡:如果整個電氣係統占高鐵,或者鐵路係統總投資來看,我們認為是在10%左右。
計渝:占到總投資比例的10%左右,按照這個比例來看,我們注意到,“十二五”規劃中間,關於中國高速鐵路建設還有一個巨額投資和發展的空間,按照這個比例來看,在“十二五”規劃中,我們可預見未來五年中,這個行業擁有多大的市場規模?
楊凡:我們認為我們在今年6yuefenjiuguanzhuzhegebankuaixiangyingdetouzijihui,womenzuodeyigetieludianqizhuantibaogaodangzhong,yecesuanguo,yinweizhenggetieludianqizaizhenggetieluxitongjiansheguochengzhong,tashuyuzhanhougongcheng,zenmelijiezhanhougongcheng?jiushibatazuoweiyigeqianmianwomencong2006年開始高鐵的投資1500億,到2007年1800億,到今年已經成長到8000億(yi)非(fei)常(chang)大(da)的(de)規(gui)模(mo),但(dan)是(shi)這(zhe)個(ge)錢(qian),投(tou)資(zi)我(wo)們(men)看(kan)到(dao)都(dou)是(shi)在(zai)修(xiu)橋(qiao),鋪(pu)路(lu),挖(wa)隧(sui)道(dao),所(suo)以(yi)對(dui)應(ying)上(shang)市(shi)公(gong)司(si)而(er)言(yan),它(ta)的(de)訂(ding)單(dan)反(fan)應(ying)中(zhong)鐵(tie),中(zhong)鐵(tie)建(jian),南(nan)車(che),北(bei)車(che)相(xiang)應(ying)的(de)訂(ding)單(dan),而(er)整(zheng)個(ge)電(dian)氣(qi)係(xi)統(tong)是(shi)在(zai)所(suo)有(you)這(zhe)些(xie)前(qian)期(qi)工(gong)程(cheng)完(wan)成(cheng)之(zhi)後(hou),在(zai)末(mo)期(qi),就(jiu)是(shi)通(tong)車(che)前(qian)一(yi)年(nian)左(zuo)右(you),才(cai)進(jin)行(xing)相(xiang)關(guan)的(de)建(jian)設(she)的(de),所(suo)以(yi)我(wo)們(men)看(kan)到(dao),前(qian)期(qi)基(ji)建(jian)投(tou)資(zi)的(de)高(gao)增(zeng)長(chang),就(jiu)預(yu)示(shi)著(zhe)我(wo)們(men)未(wei)來(lai)“十二五”期間,相應的鐵路電氣這一塊,會有持續的爆發式增長,這是我們看好這個板塊一個非常確定性投資機會的原因。
計渝:從(cong)你(ni)剛(gang)才(cai)分(fen)析(xi)的(de)後(hou)續(xu)的(de)投(tou)資(zi)會(hui)逐(zhu)漸(jian)加(jia)強(qiang),市(shi)場(chang)效(xiao)應(ying)會(hui)逐(zhu)漸(jian)顯(xian)現(xian)出(chu)來(lai),但(dan)是(shi)我(wo)們(men)也(ye)知(zhi)道(dao),按(an)照(zhao)細(xi)分(fen)領(ling)域(yu)來(lai)說(shuo),在(zai)這(zhe)個(ge)領(ling)域(yu)中(zhong)間(jian)我(wo)們(men)分(fen)為(wei)一(yi)次(ci)設(she)備(bei),還(hai)有(you)二(er)次(ci)設(she)備(bei)等(deng)等(deng),這(zhe)是(shi)非(fei)常(chang)專(zhuan)業(ye)的(de)一(yi)個(ge)名(ming)稱(cheng),什(shen)麼(me)是(shi)一(yi)次(ci)設(she)備(bei)?什(shen)麼(me)是(shi)二(er)次(ci)設(she)備(bei)?這(zhe)些(xie)設(she)備(bei)在(zai)你(ni)剛(gang)才(cai)所(suo)提(ti)到(dao)的(de)電(dian)氣(qi)自(zi)動(dong)化(hua)整(zheng)個(ge)投(tou)資(zi)規(gui)模(mo)中(zhong),比(bi)例(li)又(you)是(shi)怎(zen)麼(me)分(fen)配(pei)的(de)?
楊凡:yicishebeiheercishebei,qishishijieyongledianlixitonglimianshubiandiandeyicishebeiheercishebeidelianggegainian,yicishebeizhuyaoshizhibianyaqikaiguan,dianliushijitongguo,geitieludedianwangtigongnengliangdezhushebei。ercishebeijiushijiazaizhexiezhushebeishang,jiankong,baozhangtieludianqixitongnenggouanquan,youxiaoyunxingdeweijide,huozhejisuanjidejiankongxitong,zheshitamendequbie,ruguocongtouzibililaikan,yicishebeidagaizhanlezhenggetouzibizhongdangzhong80%左右,二次設備,監控設備占20%。
計渝:一次設備占的比例是最大的,在一次設備,二次設備中間,有哪些我們現在A股上市公司,與它有密切關聯關係的呢?
楊凡:我們在6月yue份fen的de鐵tie路lu電dian氣qi報bao告gao當dang中zhong,也ye對dui相xiang關guan公gong司si做zuo了le比bi較jiao細xi致zhi的de梳shu理li,能neng夠gou從cong事shi鐵tie路lu電dian氣qi一yi次ci設she備bei的de相xiang關guan公gong司si,比bi如ru說shuo有you臥wo龍long電dian氣qi,它ta主zhu要yao做zuo電dian氣qi化hua鐵tie路lu當dang中zhong牽qian引yin變bian壓ya器qi,這zhe是shi一yi次ci設she備bei當dang中zhong主zhu要yao的de設she備bei,還hai有you我wo們men的de特te銳rui德de,創chuang業ye板ban的de第di一yi股gu,它ta做zuo的de是shi鐵tie路lu裏li麵mian箱xiang式shi變bian電dian站zhan的de設she備bei,此ci外wai鼎ding漢han技ji術shu提ti供gong鐵tie路lu通tong信xin係xi統tong,提ti供gong電dian源yuan的de設she備bei,我wo們men都dou可ke以yi把ba它ta稱cheng為wei是shi一yi次ci設she備bei。
計渝:好(hao),揚(yang)帆(fan)給(gei)我(wo)們(men)詳(xiang)細(xi)分(fen)析(xi)了(le)在(zai)高(gao)鐵(tie)所(suo)帶(dai)動(dong)電(dian)氣(qi)自(zi)動(dong)化(hua)設(she)備(bei)這(zhe)個(ge)領(ling)域(yu)中(zhong),一(yi)些(xie)上(shang)市(shi)公(gong)司(si)的(de)簡(jian)單(dan)情(qing)況(kuang),以(yi)及(ji)市(shi)場(chang)未(wei)來(lai)的(de)空(kong)間(jian)是(shi)怎(zen)麼(me)樣(yang)的(de)。我(wo)們(men)稍(shao)適(shi)休(xiu)息(xi)仍(reng)然(ran)回(hui)到(dao)節(jie)目(mu)中(zhong),繼(ji)續(xu)和(he)楊(yang)凡(fan)討(tao)論(lun)一(yi)下(xia),在(zai)A股市場上市公司中間,與高鐵電氣自動化設備相關聯這些個股,它的成長性究竟如何?一會再見。
輝煌科技:股價漲三倍業績增幾何?
計渝:因yin為wei高gao速su鐵tie路lu的de巨ju額e投tou資zi與yu快kuai速su的de發fa展zhan,因yin之zhi而er受shou益yi的de上shang市shi公gong司si現xian在zai確que實shi不bu少shao,剛gang才cai楊yang凡fan在zai節jie目mu中zhong,已yi經jing給gei我wo們men介jie紹shao了le,下xia麵mian我wo們men跟gen著zhe記ji者zhe一yi起qi走zou進jin其qi中zhong一yi家jia,具ju有you典dian型xing意yi義yi的de公gong司si去qu看kan看kan。
張文傑(記者):我身後是防災安全監控係統在京滬高鐵上的應用圖,
congzhegedapingmushangwomenkandao,jinghugaotieyanxiangechezhanheyixietedaqiao,zaizhelijunyoubiaozhu,qishitadefangzaianquanjiankongxitong,zhuyaotixianzaizhejigetubiaoshang,womenkandao,zhelianggetubiaofenbieshiyulianghefengliangdexianshi,dangyulianghefengliangdadaojixiandeshihou,zhelianggetubiaojiuhuifachuyujing,xianzaiwomenkandaozhegetubiaoshiluowuqinhaidejingshi,dangyouluowuqinhaidaozhegeguidaodeshihou,zhegetubiaojiuhuifachujingshi,congerqidaofangfanyujingdezuoyong。
這個防災安全係統,就是上市公司輝煌科技今年開發的新項目,這一產品被用在10月26號剛剛通車的滬杭高鐵上。
胡江平(輝煌科技副總經理):xianzaifangzaiyaoqiugaotiebixutongbukaigong,zheshiyigexindegainian,erqiekaolvdaoguojiaduifangzaidexuqiuhuozhekaolvrendeanquan,zhezhongfangzaideyaoqiuhuiyuelaiyuegao,zhegegainianzaibuduandewanshan,tahaishixindechanpin,suoyiyihoudequjianhaishibijiaoda。
實際上,輝煌科技在2001年成立之初,就從事與鐵路信號通信係統相關的業務,其主力產品,鐵路信號微機檢測係統,在國內細分市場的占有率已達40%,位列業內首位。記者在采訪中了解到,像這樣的調度監測係統,是鐵路運營係統裏最重要的組成部分。
張文傑:橫線代表什麼?
高歌(輝煌科技技術服務部經理):這(zhe)個(ge)橫(heng)的(de)就(jiu)是(shi)一(yi)個(ge),就(jiu)是(shi)咱(zan)們(men)平(ping)常(chang)坐(zuo)火(huo)車(che),就(jiu)是(shi)在(zai)幾(ji)站(zhan)台(tai)的(de)幾(ji)道(dao),就(jiu)是(shi)這(zhe)樣(yang)的(de),一(yi)條(tiao)橫(heng)線(xian)代(dai)表(biao)一(yi)個(ge),一(yi)道(dao),二(er)道(dao),三(san)道(dao),四(si)道(dao),五(wu)道(dao)這(zhe)樣(yang)的(de)情(qing)況(kuang)。
張文傑出:藍線代表什麼?
高歌(輝煌科技技術服務部經理):lanxiandaibiaomuqianmeiyouche,hongxiandaibiaoxianzaishiyouchezhanyong,baixian,zanmenyouyigetedian,baixianjiuzhetiaojiluyijingzhunbeihao,keyijixuwangqianxingshi,womentongsujiaopaijinlu,jiushibaiguangjiushizheyang。jugelizi,tiaoduyuanyikanzhangzhangtu,tajiufeichangqingchu,yidaoyijingyouliechezhanyong,wudao,haiyouzhegeshiliudaoyijingyouchezhanyong,zheyangdehua,tiaoduyuanjiuzhidao,erdao,sandao,sidaomeiyouche,zheyangdehua,ruguozailaichedeshihou,tazuojihuajiuyinggaishizuodaokongxiandequduan,bachejiedaonage,qidaozheyangdezuoyong。
這(zhe)位(wei)工(gong)作(zuo)人(ren)員(yuan)也(ye)告(gao)訴(su)記(ji)者(zhe),像(xiang)這(zhe)樣(yang)的(de)檢(jian)測(ce)係(xi)統(tong),隨(sui)著(zhe)鐵(tie)路(lu)運(yun)營(ying)速(su)度(du)的(de)不(bu)斷(duan)提(ti)高(gao),相(xiang)對(dui)應(ying)的(de)監(jian)測(ce)軟(ruan)件(jian)的(de)版(ban)本(ben)也(ye)要(yao)繼(ji)續(xu)升(sheng)級(ji),而(er)每(mei)次(ci)升(sheng)級(ji)與(yu)維(wei)護(hu)也(ye)將(jiang)為(wei)公(gong)司(si)帶(dai)來(lai)一(yi)筆(bi)收(shou)入(ru)。公(gong)司(si)公(gong)告(gao)也(ye)顯(xian)示(shi),2006年,廣泛應用的2000版鐵路信號微機監測係統,平均合同價格為20萬元,而到了2008年升級之後的2006版微機監測係統的平均合同價格翻了一番,達到40萬元。
胡江平:我wo們men的de產chan品pin屬shu於yu那na種zhong安an全quan防fang護hu係xi統tong,這zhe個ge係xi統tong隨sui著zhe鐵tie路lu的de提ti速su和he我wo們men客ke運yun流liu量liang的de增zeng加jia,對dui安an全quan防fang護hu的de要yao求qiu會hui越yue來lai越yue高gao,這zhe就jiu麵mian臨lin著zhe我wo們men的de產chan品pin處chu於yu要yao不bu斷duan的de升sheng級ji換huan代dai的de過guo程cheng中zhong,實shi際ji上shang我wo們men以yi前qian做zuo2006版,我們做募集資金的時候2006版,現在的概念已經是2010版了。
看來,輝煌科技在鐵路信號監測領域確實獨具優勢,那公司的股價又怎樣呢?自去年9月29號上市以來,股價一直呈單邊上漲的局麵,截至今年12月7號,公司複權後的股價,已經從剛上市時的35元漲到109.23元,上漲超過3倍。
計渝:對於輝煌科技這家公司上市以來以後的股價情況我們在盤麵上,也很清晰的看到上漲多達3倍,這家公司目前基本麵究竟怎麼樣?
我wo們men在zai片pian中zhong也ye多duo多duo少shao少shao了le解jie了le一yi下xia,從cong盤pan麵mian的de變bian化hua上shang,我wo們men怎zen麼me來lai研yan判pan這zhe家jia公gong司si的de基ji本ben麵mian情qing況kuang?它ta的de股gu價jia表biao現xian是shi不bu是shi在zai市shi場chang中zhong,有you所suo體ti現xian呢ne?我wo們men就jiu來lai和he楊yang凡fan繼ji續xu做zuo一yi個ge交jiao流liu,楊yang凡fan,你ni如ru何he看kan待dai輝hui煌huang科ke技ji這zhe家jia公gong司si,這zhe一yi年nian來lai市shi場chang表biao現xian情qing況kuang?
楊凡:我們非常看好輝煌科技這家公司長期投資價值,在我們6月yue份fen鐵tie路lu電dian氣qi報bao告gao當dang中zhong,也ye把ba輝hui煌huang科ke技ji排pai在zai我wo們men所suo有you的de鐵tie路lu電dian氣qi專zhuan題ti推tui薦jian的de股gu票piao當dang中zhong排pai在zai第di一yi位wei,一yi方fang麵mian它ta的de主zhu導dao產chan品pin是shi整zheng個ge鐵tie路lu電dian氣qi係xi統tong當dang中zhong最zui核he心xin,最zui重zhong要yao的de部bu分fen,就jiu是shi它ta的de主zhu導dao產chan品pin叫jiao做zuo鐵tie路lu信xin號hao微wei機ji監jian測ce係xi統tong,這zhe個ge產chan品pin主zhu要yao是shi監jian控kong鐵tie路lu信xin號hao係xi統tong當dang中zhong,是shi否fou有you誤wu操cao作zuo,誤wu判pan斷duan,提ti前qian提ti出chu預yu警jing和he判pan斷duan,比bi較jiao類lei似si於yu飛fei機ji中zhong的de黑hei匣xia子zi,有you這zhe樣yang的de功gong能neng,來lai的de時shi候hou我wo看kan到dao今jin天tian孟meng加jia拉la國guo有you一yi起qi鐵tie路lu,兩liang列lie火huo車che直zhi接jie在zai火huo車che站zhan直zhi接jie相xiang撞zhuang的de事shi故gu,這zhe樣yang的de事shi故gu就jiu是shi因yin為wei工gong作zuo人ren員yuan發fa出chu了le錯cuo誤wu的de信xin號hao,正zheng是shi因yin為wei有you輝hui煌huang科ke技ji這zhe樣yang的de產chan品pin,才cai使shi得de我wo們men國guo家jia,尤you其qi是shi高gao鐵tie現xian在zai速su度du越yue來lai越yue快kuai,它ta的de行xing車che安an全quan得de到dao一yi定ding的de保bao障zhang。另ling外wai一yi方fang麵mian,輝hui煌huang科ke技ji所suo做zuo的de產chan品pin是shi結jie合he著zhe計ji算suan機ji技ji術shu,軟ruan件jian技ji術shu,比bi較jiao高gao科ke技ji,有you高gao附fu加jia值zhi的de產chan品pin,隨sui著zhe高gao鐵tie速su度du越yue來lai越yue快kuai,從cong200公裏到300公裏,到現在我們實現速度已經到了400公gong裏li以yi上shang,對dui於yu行xing車che安an全quan的de要yao求qiu越yue來lai越yue高gao,所suo以yi每mei隔ge幾ji年nian就jiu會hui對dui產chan品pin有you更geng新xin換huan代dai的de需xu求qiu,所suo以yi對dui於yu輝hui煌huang科ke技ji來lai講jiang,不bu光guang是shi會hui享xiang受shou到dao鐵tie路lu基ji建jian投tou資zi帶dai來lai的de增zeng長chang,同tong時shi還hai有you產chan品pin技ji術shu更geng新xin換huan代dai這zhe樣yang一yi個ge需xu求qiu。
計渝:一個持續的發展的情況。
楊凡:沒錯,所以它的景氣周期可以延續更長。
計渝:我們看一下今天輝煌科技這個公司個股盤麵表現情況,到目前為止,漲幅超過5%,達到5.12%,現價是69.8元,輝煌科技在前段時間高位有所盤整之後,在今天的盤麵又有所表現,我們注意到,這間公司預告2010年淨利潤比前一年增長50%到70%,利潤增長幅度還是比較大,楊凡,你認為這家公司未來高成長能不能夠持續下去?
楊凡:wojiaodecongwomenbaogaolaipanduan,zhishaotahaikeyiyanxusiniandaowuniankuaisudezengchang,jiushigangcaiwosuotidao,tieludianqizaizhenggetielutouzidangzhong,suiranbilibushihenda,zhiyou10%,但dan是shi相xiang對dui能neng夠gou參can與yu到dao這zhe方fang麵mian,為wei鐵tie路lu提ti供gong電dian氣qi設she備bei的de公gong司si隻zhi有you有you限xian的de幾ji家jia,比bi如ru輝hui煌huang科ke技ji它ta做zuo這zhe個ge產chan品pin,鐵tie道dao部bu要yao經jing過guo嚴yan格ge的de,安an全quan的de資zi質zhi認ren證zheng,有you相xiang關guan生sheng產chan牌pai照zhao的de發fa放fang,能neng做zuo這zhe個ge產chan品pin隻zhi有you三san家jia,四si家jia企qi業ye。
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計渝:就jiu是shi它ta的de市shi場chang競jing爭zheng對dui手shou並bing不bu是shi太tai多duo,在zai市shi場chang優you勢shi地di位wei能neng夠gou持chi續xu下xia去qu,你ni剛gang才cai分fen析xi,你ni們men比bi較jiao看kan好hao這zhe家jia公gong司si未wei來lai四si到dao五wu年nian高gao成cheng長chang性xing,可ke是shi我wo們men回hui頭tou來lai看kan,最zui近jin我wo們men注zhu意yi到dao,這zhe家jia公gong司si大da股gu東dong之zhi一yi李li衝chong,在zai前qian段duan時shi間jian,一yi次ci性xing減jian持chi了le公gong司si23萬股的股份,這兩者之間我們怎麼理解?
楊凡:wojiaodegebiegudongjianchigufen,kenengtayouzishendekaolv,tongshiwomenyekeyiguanzhudao,zaizhejiagongsishidaliutonggudongdangzhong,qianshimingjibenshangdoushijigoutouzizhe,youqishijijindetouzizhe,yejiushishuojigouduiyuzhejiagongsizaizhenggetieludianqidangzhongdediweishifeichangkendingde,erqiekanhaotachangqidefazhan,taduiyingjinnianhuozhemingniandongtaiguzhi,suiranyijingbijiaogaole,kenengyou30倍,40倍,甚至更高,但是如果一家公司在非常高速成長行業當中,如果能夠享受三到五年,每年40%的複合增長,我們長期來看,它還是具備非常強的投資價值。
計渝:yangfan,congnigangcaidepingjialaikan,niduizhejiagongsifeichangdekanhao,erqiekantadechangqixing,kanhaotadeyejizengchangxing,duiyuxianzaigushilidetouzizhelaishuo,ruhelaikongzhitadefengxian?
這家公司成長性同時是不是也有一定的風險?
楊凡:suoyoudetieludianqidegongsidoujubeiyigexiangtongdefengxian,jiushimaijiaxiangduibijiaodanyi,doushiyoutieluxitonglaizuojianshehetouzi,zheyangjiushitieludejianshe,shouguojiadehongguantiaokongjihuayingxiangbijiaoduo,suoyiwomentixingtouzizheyeshiyaomiqieliuyi,womendezhuguanbumenduiyugaotie,zhenggetielujianshedefazhan,tashiruguozuobiaotaide,zai“十二五”規劃當中,是什麼樣明確的地位。
計渝:因(yin)為(wei)這(zhe)家(jia)公(gong)司(si)它(ta)的(de)高(gao)成(cheng)長(chang)性(xing),是(shi)依(yi)賴(lai)於(yu)單(dan)一(yi)客(ke)戶(hu)的(de)采(cai)購(gou),單(dan)一(yi)客(ke)戶(hu)對(dui)於(yu)價(jia)格(ge)的(de)控(kong)製(zhi)能(neng)力(li),對(dui)於(yu)產(chan)品(pin)應(ying)用(yong)範(fan)圍(wei)的(de)控(kong)製(zhi)能(neng)力(li),還(hai)有(you)國(guo)家(jia)的(de)投(tou)資(zi)政(zheng)策(ce)的(de)調(tiao)控(kong)能(neng)力(li)等(deng)等(deng),都(dou)是(shi)對(dui)這(zhe)家(jia)公(gong)司(si)未(wei)來(lai)成(cheng)長(chang)性(xing)確(que)定(ding)性(xing)有(you)著(zhe)重(zhong)要(yao)的(de)影(ying)響(xiang),這(zhe)點(dian)值(zhi)得(de)投(tou)資(zi)者(zhe)關(guan)注(zhu)。好(hao),稍(shao)候(hou)我(wo)們(men)休(xiu)息(xi)一(yi)下(xia),然(ran)後(hou)回(hui)到(dao)節(jie)目(mu)中(zhong)間(jian)來(lai),我(wo)們(men)要(yao)關(guan)注(zhu)另(ling)外(wai)一(yi)家(jia)典(dian)型(xing)性(xing)的(de)公(gong)司(si),也(ye)是(shi)與(yu)高(gao)鐵(tie)建(jian)設(she)有(you)關(guan)聯(lian)的(de),它(ta)主(zhu)營(ying)的(de)業(ye)務(wu)是(shi)軌(gui)道(dao)信(xin)號(hao)供(gong)電(dian)係(xi)統(tong),軌(gui)道(dao)信(xin)號(hao)供(gong)電(dian)係(xi)統(tong),聽(ting)起(qi)來(lai)是(shi)比(bi)較(jiao)專(zhuan)業(ye)的(de)名(ming)詞(ci),好(hao),回(hui)到(dao)節(jie)目(mu)中(zhong)間(jian)來(lai),我(wo)們(men)詳(xiang)細(xi)和(he)楊(yang)凡(fan)討(tao)論(lun),交(jiao)易(yi)時(shi)間(jian),與(yu)交(jiao)易(yi)同(tong)步(bu)。
計渝:gangcaiwomenzaishangyijiejiemuzhongjian,geidajiajieshaohuihuangkejizhejiazhuyingtielutiaoduxitong,huozhetieluanquanxinhaojiancexitongqiyedeqingkuang,xiamianwomenzailaikanlingwaiyijia,yeshijuyoudianxingyiyidegongsi,jiaodinghanjishu,zhejiagongsishiyiguidaoxinhaogongdianxitongweizhuyedegongsi,tayezaizhecigaosutieludaguimotouzizhongfendeleyibeigeng,tadeshichangbiaoxianyuhuihuangkejiqueshidaxiangjingting,weishenmene?yiqilailejieyixia。
鼎漢技術:何時會現高成長?
zuoweichuangyebanzhongdeshoupishangshigongsi,dinghanjishupingjieqizaiguoneiguidaojiaotongxinhaozhinengdianyuanxitongshangdelongtouyoushi,zaishangshizhichu,zengshoudaoshichangreliezhuipeng,jinnian4月中旬,公司股價曾達到106.35元的曆史高位,然而在這之後市場表現卻陷入徘徊之中,12月7號(hao)其(qi)複(fu)權(quan)後(hou)的(de)股(gu)價(jia),僅(jin)略(lve)高(gao)於(yu)上(shang)市(shi)首(shou)日(ri)的(de)開(kai)盤(pan)價(jia),上(shang)市(shi)一(yi)年(nian),股(gu)價(jia)卻(que)回(hui)到(dao)原(yuan)點(dian),這(zhe)背(bei)後(hou)有(you)什(shen)麼(me)原(yuan)因(yin)呢(ne)?這(zhe)也(ye)許(xu)能(neng)從(cong)公(gong)司(si)三(san)季(ji)報(bao)裏(li)找(zhao)出(chu)答(da)案(an),今(jin)年(nian)前(qian)三(san)季(ji)度(du),公(gong)司(si)營(ying)業(ye)收(shou)入(ru)2.01億元,同比增長14.83%,淨利潤4147萬元,同比下降6.69%。
吳鵬(鼎漢技術副總經理):這(zhe)個(ge)主(zhu)要(yao)原(yuan)因(yin),是(shi)因(yin)為(wei)高(gao)鐵(tie),包(bao)括(kuo)軌(gui)道(dao)交(jiao)通(tong)它(ta)們(men)建(jian)設(she)周(zhou)期(qi)非(fei)常(chang)長(chang),比(bi)如(ru)我(wo)們(men)去(qu)年(nian)簽(qian)的(de)合(he)同(tong)今(jin)年(nian)交(jiao)付(fu),今(jin)年(nian)簽(qian)的(de)合(he)同(tong)明(ming)年(nian)交(jiao)付(fu),交(jiao)付(fu)時(shi)間(jian)比(bi)較(jiao)長(chang),所(suo)以(yi)造(zao)成(cheng)我(wo)們(men)今(jin)年(nian)雖(sui)然(ran)訂(ding)單(dan)量(liang)還(hai)是(shi)比(bi)較(jiao)大(da),但(dan)真(zhen)正(zheng)實(shi)現(xian)產(chan)品(pin)交(jiao)付(fu),銷(xiao)售(shou)收(shou)入(ru)的(de)兌(dui)現(xian),還(hai)不(bu)是(shi)很(hen)及(ji)時(shi)。
wupenggaosujizhe,gongsijinnianyijingzhongbiaolejinghugaotiequanxiandexinhaogongdianxitong,yijihaerbindaodalian,jingshiwukeyunzhuanxiandengduogegaotiexiangmu,erzhexiexiangmudeshourushixian,yujizaimingnianshangbannianjiangyousuobiaoxian。
吳鵬:現在基本上已經成為公司支柱的行業,現在占比應該是占的第一位的就是我們高鐵。
此外,在公司中報披露的合同與訂單情況中,記者也發現,除了高鐵項目外,公司拿下的城市軌道交通項目也增長迅速。
吳鵬:guidaojiaotongtashishuyuquanguogedi,gegechengshidouyouqidong,kenengkeyunzhuanxianyinianqidongshijitiao,ershitiao,erqiewomencanyudezhuanyekenengjiushixinhaozhuanye,tongxunzhuanye,zaiguidaojiaotonglimian,kenengwomencanyudezhuanyehuifeichangduo,gegezixitong,tafendezixitongbijiaoxihuahegaotiexiangbi,suoyiwomenzaizixitongzhong,gongdianxitongjiejuefangan,nengtigongdezixitongyefeichangduo。
城市軌道項目,是鼎漢技術除了高鐵之外的另一主營業務,但公司中報卻顯示,今年上半年,主營業務綜合毛利率僅為37.94%,與去年同期相比下降了12.15%,而造成這一成績的主要原因,就是公司今年上半年地鐵供電係統解決方案的毛利率僅為4.5%,大大低於信號電源產品。
計渝:對(dui)於(yu)鼎(ding)漢(han)技(ji)術(shu)這(zhe)家(jia)公(gong)司(si)資(zi)本(ben)市(shi)場(chang)裏(li)的(de)很(hen)多(duo)投(tou)資(zi)者(zhe)應(ying)當(dang)比(bi)較(jiao)熟(shu)悉(xi),在(zai)創(chuang)業(ye)板(ban)市(shi)場(chang)中(zhong),曾(zeng)經(jing)是(shi)一(yi)度(du)非(fei)常(chang)的(de)風(feng)光(guang),對(dui)於(yu)一(yi)家(jia),既(ji)是(shi)享(xiang)受(shou)了(le)創(chuang)業(ye)板(ban)一(yi)個(ge)好(hao)資(zi)源(yuan)的(de)企(qi)業(ye),同(tong)時(shi)又(you)涉(she)足(zu)到(dao)高(gao)速(su)鐵(tie)路(lu)高(gao)成(cheng)長(chang),高(gao)投(tou)資(zi)大(da)的(de)市(shi)場(chang)背(bei)景(jing)的(de)企(qi)業(ye),原(yuan)本(ben)應(ying)當(dang)上(shang)市(shi)以(yi)後(hou)業(ye)績(ji)表(biao)現(xian)相(xiang)當(dang)不(bu)錯(cuo),可(ke)是(shi)我(wo)們(men)看(kan)上(shang)市(shi)一(yi)年(nian)答(da)卷(juan)並(bing)不(bu)很(hen)漂(piao)亮(liang),從(cong)這(zhe)點(dian)來(lai)看(kan),為(wei)什(shen)麼(me)同(tong)樣(yang)都(dou)是(shi)非(fei)常(chang)好(hao)的(de)高(gao)鐵(tie)投(tou)資(zi)的(de)大(da)市(shi)場(chang)之(zhi)下(xia),為(wei)什(shen)麼(me)有(you)的(de)公(gong)司(si)成(cheng)長(chang)性(xing)非(fei)常(chang)好(hao)?而(er)有(you)的(de)公(gong)司(si)成(cheng)長(chang)性(xing)顯(xian)得(de)不(bu)足(zu)呢(ne)?我(wo)們(men)繼(ji)續(xu)來(lai)和(he)楊(yang)凡(fan)做(zuo)個(ge)交(jiao)流(liu),楊(yang)凡(fan),你(ni)對(dui)鼎(ding)漢(han)技(ji)術(shu)這(zhe)家(jia)公(gong)司(si),它(ta)在(zai)第(di)一(yi)年(nian)的(de)業(ye)績(ji)情(qing)況(kuang)不(bu)佳(jia),你(ni)怎(zen)麼(me)看(kan)待(dai)?
楊凡:dinghanjishujinniancongyejilaikan,dequediyutouzizheheshichangdeyuqi,womenfenxidiyifangmianjiushi,gangcaiyetidaoyigefengxian,jiushitadechanpinzhaobiaohegonghuodoushishoudaotieluxiangguanxitongjianshebumentamencaigoudezhouqi,jianshezhouqi,youtamenlaijueding,suoyigongsishouzhenggexingyezhaotoubiaozhouqidebodongyingxiangbijiaoda。lingwaiyigefangmian,gongsitayuanlaidechanpinbijiaodanyi,zhuyaoshizuogaotielimiandexinhaodianyuan,zheyangyigedanyidechanpin,zaiwomenkandao,gongsizaishangshizhihou,yezaijijidekuozhan,fengfutadechanpinxian,xiangditiedechanpin,haiyouxianggaotielimiandetongxindianyuanzheyangyixiexindelingyujinjun,zaijinjunguochengzhong,ziranerranjiuhuiyudaoyixieqianqikaifashichangshang,youyixiezulihenandu,suoyiqianqideshihou,tadashichangdeshihou,youkenenghuicaiqubijiaodijiadejingbiaocelve,suoyiwomenkandao,tayouyixiexindeyewu,maolilvzhiyou5個點,但是原來的老業務毛利率有50個點,可以從部分方麵可以解釋,為什麼今年的毛利率比去年有大幅度的下降。
計渝:你ni提ti到dao鼎ding漢han技ji術shu這zhe家jia公gong司si,一yi方fang麵mian它ta在zai過guo去qu傳chuan統tong行xing業ye中zhong,維wei持chi著zhe一yi定ding的de優you勢shi地di位wei,但dan是shi在zai拓tuo展zhan新xin的de產chan品pin領ling域yu的de時shi候hou,它ta要yao麵mian對dui新xin的de競jing爭zheng對dui手shou,要yao麵mian對dui新xin的de業ye務wu領ling域yu,它ta在zai拓tuo展zhan的de市shi場chang的de時shi候hou,往wang往wang會hui遇yu到dao很hen大da的de影ying響xiang,我wo們men注zhu意yi到dao,在zai11月yue下xia旬xun的de時shi候hou,這zhe家jia公gong司si發fa布bu了le一yi個ge股gu權quan激ji勵li的de計ji劃hua,這zhe個ge計ji劃hua出chu台tai之zhi後hou引yin起qi投tou資zi者zhe關guan注zhu,非fei常chang有you意yi思si,我wo們men來lai看kan一yi下xia它ta對dui於yu激ji勵li對dui象xiang股gu票piao解jie鎖suo規gui定ding業ye績ji增zeng長chang限xian製zhi規gui定ding是shi這zhe麼me說shuo,2009年的淨利潤為基數,2011年,2012年,2013年淨利潤增長率不能低於30%,50%和100%,從這個股權激勵製度下麵,我們怎麼理解?
楊凡:如果說單純從數字上來看,似乎公司的管理層對於2011年,2012年的業績增長,可能稍微謹慎一些,對於2013年,2014年的增長相對樂觀一些,我們覺得一方麵來講,還是提到了一個鐵路建設,相應電氣的投資,它有一個滯後的效應,比如我們今年2010年,可能鐵路基建投資有7000億到8000億,對應的在2013,2014年就會出一個700億到800億(yi)龐(pang)大(da)的(de)電(dian)氣(qi)設(she)備(bei)的(de)需(xu)求(qiu),那(na)個(ge)時(shi)候(hou)鐵(tie)路(lu)電(dian)氣(qi)的(de)增(zeng)長(chang),真(zhen)正(zheng)的(de)高(gao)峰(feng)才(cai)會(hui)來(lai)臨(lin),這(zhe)是(shi)一(yi)方(fang)麵(mian)。另(ling)外(wai)一(yi)方(fang)麵(mian),我(wo)覺(jiao)得(de)我(wo)們(men)在(zai)選(xuan)擇(ze)投(tou)資(zi)標(biao)的(de)的(de)時(shi)候(hou),首(shou)先(xian)要(yao)在(zai)一(yi)個(ge)非(fei)常(chang)確(que)定(ding),有(you)朝(chao)氣(qi)的(de)行(xing)業(ye),比(bi)如(ru)鐵(tie)路(lu)電(dian)氣(qi)這(zhe)個(ge)行(xing)業(ye),我(wo)判(pan)斷(duan)未(wei)來(lai)三(san)年(nian),四(si)年(nian)都(dou)會(hui)是(shi)比(bi)較(jiao)快(kuai)的(de)增(zeng)長(chang),另(ling)外(wai)一(yi)方(fang)麵(mian),我(wo)們(men)在(zai)精(jing)選(xuan)行(xing)業(ye)當(dang)中(zhong),選(xuan)一(yi)些(xie)質(zhi)地(di)比(bi)較(jiao)好(hao)的(de)公(gong)司(si),我(wo)認(ren)為(wei)鼎(ding)漢(han)技(ji)術(shu)同(tong)時(shi)具(ju)備(bei)了(le)好(hao)行(xing)業(ye)和(he)好(hao)公(gong)司(si)的(de)兩(liang)大(da)特(te)征(zheng),鼎(ding)漢(han)技(ji)術(shu)也(ye)是(shi)和(he)輝(hui)煌(huang)科(ke)技(ji)一(yi)樣(yang),進(jin)入(ru)了(le)鐵(tie)道(dao)部(bu)關(guan)於(yu)安(an)全(quan)生(sheng)產(chan)企(qi)業(ye)名(ming)冊(ce)當(dang)中(zhong)的(de)公(gong)司(si),和(he)它(ta)一(yi)起(qi)做(zuo)這(zhe)個(ge)產(chan)品(pin)的(de)隻(zhi)有(you)五(wu)家(jia)到(dao)六(liu)家(jia)同(tong)樣(yang)競(jing)爭(zheng)對(dui)手(shou),它(ta)的(de)市(shi)場(chang)競(jing)爭(zheng)的(de)格(ge)局(ju),也(ye)是(shi)比(bi)較(jiao)簡(jian)單(dan),或(huo)者(zhe)比(bi)較(jiao)緩(huan)和(he)的(de)。
計渝:huozhetadejingzhengshichangxiangduibijiaowendingyixie,zhegewendingdeqingkuangxia,womentouzizhezaiguanzhuzhejiagongsi,jiyaoguanzhutadezhenggetadeyewudechengchangxing,tongshihaiyaoguanzhuyidian,jiushizhejiagongsizhilijiegou,tazijideguanliheyunying,yijitadechengbenkongzhidenengli,jiujingzenmeyang?
可(ke)能(neng)也(ye)會(hui)影(ying)響(xiang)到(dao)我(wo)們(men)現(xian)在(zai)報(bao)表(biao)的(de)業(ye)績(ji)增(zeng)長(chang)的(de)情(qing)況(kuang),就(jiu)鼎(ding)漢(han)技(ji)術(shu)這(zhe)家(jia)公(gong)司(si),它(ta)的(de)公(gong)司(si)的(de)管(guan)理(li)運(yun)營(ying),以(yi)及(ji)剛(gang)才(cai)你(ni)所(suo)提(ti)到(dao)它(ta)的(de)新(xin)產(chan)品(pin),新(xin)市(shi)場(chang)拓(tuo)展(zhan)等(deng)等(deng)方(fang)麵(mian),它(ta)有(you)沒(mei)有(you)足(zu)夠(gou)強(qiang)的(de)能(neng)力(li)?它(ta)這(zhe)方(fang)麵(mian)是(shi)不(bu)是(shi)影(ying)響(xiang)這(zhe)家(jia)公(gong)司(si),在(zai)2011年,2012年以致以後業績成長風險所在?
楊凡:我們判斷公司的老產品,信號電源這個產品,僅僅靠這幾年行業的增長,可以維持這個公司每年25%到30%的(de)最(zui)基(ji)本(ben)的(de)增(zeng)長(chang),比(bi)如(ru)說(shuo)求(qiu)溫(wen)飽(bao)老(lao)產(chan)品(pin)就(jiu)夠(gou)了(le),如(ru)果(guo)要(yao)奔(ben)小(xiao)康(kang),可(ke)能(neng)就(jiu)要(yao)靠(kao)新(xin)產(chan)品(pin),比(bi)如(ru)它(ta)現(xian)在(zai)積(ji)極(ji)拓(tuo)展(zhan)地(di)鐵(tie)裏(li)麵(mian)屏(ping)幕(mu)門(men)的(de)電(dian)源(yuan)係(xi)統(tong),還(hai)有(you)高(gao)鐵(tie)裏(li)麵(mian)相(xiang)關(guan)通(tong)信(xin)電(dian)源(yuan)的(de)係(xi)統(tong),它(ta)也(ye)是(shi)找(zhao)了(le)一(yi)些(xie)行(xing)業(ye)內(nei)的(de),比(bi)如(ru)說(shuo)像(xiang)艾(ai)默(mo)生(sheng)這(zhe)樣(yang)的(de)公(gong)司(si),通(tong)信(xin)電(dian)源(yuan)的(de)巨(ju)頭(tou)來(lai)進(jin)行(xing)強(qiang)強(qiang)合(he)作(zuo),這(zhe)樣(yang)我(wo)認(ren)為(wei),是(shi)一(yi)個(ge)非(fei)常(chang)好(hao)的(de)切(qie)入(ru)點(dian)。