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記者:胡總,您認為目前中國工業控製係統安全的發展現狀是怎樣的?
胡總:工信部於2011年出台了451號文件,451號文件的要求是對中國的基礎設施尤其是工業控製網絡進行安全檢測,集中發現問題並給出安全預案。在2011年之後很多企業開始了這方麵的探索,但因為當時缺乏專業的工控網絡安全企業來幫助政府完成任務,所以效果不是很明顯。2013年(nian)之(zhi)後(hou),這(zhe)些(xie)企(qi)業(ye)開(kai)始(shi)湧(yong)現(xian),包(bao)括(kuo)穀(gu)神(shen)星(xing),也(ye)包(bao)括(kuo)一(yi)些(xie)國(guo)外(wai)的(de)成(cheng)熟(shu)的(de)技(ji)術(shu)及(ji)產(chan)品(pin)開(kai)始(shi)進(jin)入(ru)中(zhong)國(guo),使(shi)我(wo)國(guo)的(de)工(gong)控(kong)領(ling)域(yu)得(de)以(yi)迅(xun)速(su)地(di)發(fa)展(zhan)。目(mu)前(qian)從(cong)國(guo)家(jia)的(de)層(ceng)麵(mian)來(lai)講(jiang)對(dui)工(gong)業(ye)控(kong)製(zhi)網(wang)絡(luo)安(an)全(quan)是(shi)非(fei)常(chang)重(zhong)視(shi)的(de),因(yin)為(wei)工(gong)業(ye)網(wang)絡(luo)安(an)全(quan)從(cong)本(ben)質(zhi)上(shang)講(jiang)是(shi)基(ji)礎(chu)設(she)施(shi)安(an)全(quan),一(yi)旦(dan)出(chu)現(xian)重(zhong)大(da)的(de)網(wang)絡(luo)安(an)全(quan)事(shi)故(gu),影(ying)響(xiang)和(he)損(sun)失(shi)無(wu)法(fa)估(gu)量(liang)。此(ci)外(wai),企(qi)業(ye)領(ling)導(dao)層(ceng)也(ye)在(zai)紛(fen)紛(fen)響(xiang)應(ying)國(guo)家(jia)的(de)號(hao)召(zhao),並(bing)對(dui)工(gong)控(kong)網(wang)絡(luo)安(an)全(quan)這(zhe)塊(kuai)積(ji)極(ji)地(di)響(xiang)應(ying),積(ji)極(ji)采(cai)取(qu)措(cuo)施(shi)落(luo)實(shi)。所(suo)以(yi)從(cong)市(shi)場(chang)角(jiao)度(du)來(lai)講(jiang),目(mu)前(qian)正(zheng)處(chu)於(yu)工(gong)控(kong)安(an)全(quan)市(shi)場(chang)爆(bao)發(fa)的(de)前(qian)夕(xi),企(qi)業(ye)需(xu)要(yao)去(qu)培(pei)育(yu)市(shi)場(chang)、把握用戶的需求,把質量可靠的安全產品推廣出去。這個過程一般都有一個試用及摸索的階段,但是,工控安全的前景不可估量。

穀神星網絡科技(北京)有限公司董事長兼CEO 胡浩
記者:您認為保障工業控製網絡安全的核心環節是什麼?
胡總:核he心xin的de環huan節jie就jiu是shi,第di一yi是shi知zhi己ji,需xu要yao對dui整zheng個ge網wang絡luo進jin行xing一yi個ge徹che底di的de了le解jie,做zuo到dao心xin中zhong有you數shu。工gong控kong網wang絡luo到dao底di存cun在zai什shen麼me問wen題ti,有you什shen麼me缺que陷xian和he風feng險xian,我wo們men需xu要yao采cai用yong什shen麼me樣yang的de技ji術shu措cuo施shi,需xu要yao提ti高gao到dao什shen麼me樣yang的de水shui平ping;dierjiushizhibi,jiaruduifangzhidaowodezhexiewentihoutamenhuicaiqushenmeyangdegongjishouduan,dangran,youshihoubentudexinxianquanyekenengshiyinweigongzuorenyuanshiwuhuozhecaozuoyichangdaozhide。name,zhijizhibizhihoune,xuyaojinxingyitaowanzhengdefanghufangan,xuyaojiangwanzhengdefanghufanganbushudaowomendekongzhixitonglimian,zuodaowanwuyishi,tongchangjiagugongkongwangluoanquan,zheshiwomenxuyaozuodejigebuzhou。
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胡總:首先,我們國家工業4.0水平還是比較弱的,很多企業都已經開始投入、建(jian)設(she)智(zhi)能(neng)工(gong)廠(chang)。如(ru)果(guo)僅(jin)僅(jin)是(shi)對(dui)信(xin)息(xi)安(an)全(quan)防(fang)護(hu)的(de)話(hua),把(ba)自(zi)己(ji)的(de)工(gong)廠(chang)整(zheng)個(ge)控(kong)製(zhi)係(xi)統(tong)互(hu)通(tong)互(hu)聯(lian)了(le)以(yi)後(hou),實(shi)際(ji)上(shang)是(shi)存(cun)在(zai)很(hen)大(da)的(de)缺(que)陷(xian)和(he)風(feng)險(xian)的(de)。由(you)於(yu)接(jie)口(kou)的(de)放(fang)開(kai),黑(hei)客(ke)通(tong)過(guo)放(fang)開(kai)的(de)接(jie)口(kou)直(zhi)接(jie)攻(gong)入(ru)我(wo)們(men)的(de)係(xi)統(tong),而(er)我(wo)們(men)的(de)係(xi)統(tong)本(ben)身(shen)這(zhe)些(xie)控(kong)製(zhi)設(she)備(bei)是(shi)存(cun)在(zai)網(wang)絡(luo)安(an)全(quan)漏(lou)洞(dong)的(de),那(na)麼(me)通(tong)過(guo)對(dui)這(zhe)些(xie)漏(lou)洞(dong)的(de)利(li)用(yong),會(hui)造(zao)成(cheng)一(yi)定(ding)程(cheng)度(du)的(de)破(po)壞(huai)和(he)損(sun)失(shi)。
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記者:針對不同行業和不同規模的企業,該如何進行工控安全類產品的選型?
胡總:工(gong)控(kong)安(an)全(quan)產(chan)品(pin)的(de)選(xuan)型(xing),第(di)一(yi)重(zhong)要(yao)的(de)是(shi)產(chan)品(pin)要(yao)技(ji)術(shu)領(ling)先(xian)且(qie)質(zhi)量(liang)可(ke)靠(kao),隻(zhi)有(you)采(cai)用(yong)了(le)先(xian)進(jin)的(de)安(an)全(quan)控(kong)製(zhi)技(ji)術(shu),才(cai)能(neng)保(bao)護(hu)好(hao)工(gong)控(kong)產(chan)品(pin),當(dang)然(ran),如(ru)果(guo)質(zhi)量(liang)不(bu)可(ke)靠(kao),本(ben)身(shen)就(jiu)談(tan)不(bu)上(shang)對(dui)產(chan)品(pin)進(jin)行(xing)有(you)效(xiao)的(de)保(bao)護(hu)了(le)。其(qi)次(ci),看(kan)企(qi)業(ye)在(zai)業(ye)界(jie)的(de)口(kou)碑(bei)和(he)市(shi)場(chang)占(zhan)有(you)率(lv),好(hao)的(de)產(chan)品(pin),市(shi)場(chang)會(hui)舉(ju)手(shou)投(tou)讚(zan)成(cheng)票(piao);buhaodechanpin,shichangzhihuiyongjiaotoupiaole。zuihou,yaokanqiyeshifouzaibutongxingyeyouyingyonganli,shifoumouxieqiyezhuanzhuyumouxiexingye,tongchangxuqiuqiyehuiduizaitongxingyeyouyejidegongkonganquanchanpinbijiaoqinglai。
穀神星的安全防護產品,是通過來自斯坦福大學、卡耐基梅隆大學、清華大學、北(bei)京(jing)大(da)學(xue)等(deng)國(guo)內(nei)外(wai)頂(ding)尖(jian)大(da)學(xue)的(de)自(zi)主(zhu)研(yan)發(fa)團(tuan)隊(dui)開(kai)發(fa)的(de),融(rong)合(he)了(le)國(guo)內(nei)外(wai)最(zui)先(xian)進(jin)的(de)安(an)全(quan)架(jia)構(gou)和(he)模(mo)塊(kuai),技(ji)術(shu)在(zai)國(guo)內(nei)外(wai)處(chu)於(yu)領(ling)先(xian)地(di)位(wei)。穀(gu)神(shen)星(xing)在(zai)國(guo)內(nei)重(zhong)要(yao)合(he)作(zuo)單(dan)位(wei)有(you)工(gong)業(ye)控(kong)製(zhi)係(xi)統(tong)信(xin)息(xi)安(an)全(quan)技(ji)術(shu)國(guo)家(jia)工(gong)程(cheng)實(shi)驗(yan)室(shi)、工控設備龍頭製造商、工控係統集成商、工控研究方向的科研院所和重點高校、國家和省級測評單位、發fa電dian集ji團tuan等deng。公gong司si先xian後hou成cheng為wei了le工gong業ye控kong製zhi安an全quan技ji術shu國guo家jia工gong程cheng實shi驗yan室shi理li事shi會hui理li事shi,工gong業ye控kong製zhi係xi統tong信xin息xi安an全quan產chan業ye聯lian盟meng成cheng員yuan。為wei建jian立li我wo國guo自zi主zhu的de工gong控kong安an全quan防fang護hu體ti係xi,提ti升sheng工gong控kong安an全quan核he心xin競jing爭zheng力li貢gong獻xian了le力li量liang。
記者:隨著去IOE化及國家智能製造的要求,國內工控安全係統廠商將麵臨哪些機會和挑戰?
胡總:當(dang)前(qian)的(de)工(gong)控(kong)安(an)全(quan)還(hai)是(shi)比(bi)較(jiao)嚴(yan)峻(jun)的(de),之(zhi)前(qian)很(hen)多(duo)的(de)基(ji)礎(chu)設(she)施(shi)行(xing)業(ye)對(dui)自(zi)己(ji)的(de)認(ren)識(shi)不(bu)足(zu),但(dan)是(shi)有(you)些(xie)行(xing)業(ye)做(zuo)得(de)還(hai)是(shi)很(hen)不(bu)錯(cuo)的(de)。像(xiang)電(dian)力(li)行(xing)業(ye)本(ben)來(lai)已(yi)經(jing)采(cai)取(qu)了(le)橫(heng)向(xiang)隔(ge)離(li),縱(zong)向(xiang)加(jia)密(mi),很(hen)多(duo)安(an)全(quan)措(cuo)施(shi)都(dou)已(yi)經(jing)有(you)自(zi)己(ji)的(de)規(gui)範(fan)和(he)標(biao)準(zhun),還(hai)有(you)其(qi)他(ta)的(de)行(xing)業(ye)像(xiang)燃(ran)氣(qi)還(hai)有(you)石(shi)油(you)石(shi)化(hua),在(zai)管(guan)理(li)規(gui)範(fan)上(shang)也(ye)有(you)很(hen)多(duo)的(de)措(cuo)施(shi),比(bi)如(ru)說(shuo)移(yi)動(dong)媒(mei)介(jie)不(bu)能(neng)隨(sui)便(bian)使(shi)用(yong),封(feng)閉(bi)網(wang)絡(luo)環(huan)境(jing)等(deng)。總(zong)的(de)來(lai)講(jiang),我(wo)們(men)國(guo)家(jia)的(de)一(yi)些(xie)基(ji)礎(chu)設(she)施(shi)行(xing)業(ye)本(ben)身(shen)已(yi)經(jing)采(cai)取(qu)了(le)一(yi)些(xie)管(guan)理(li)防(fang)範(fan)措(cuo)施(shi),好(hao)些(xie)行(xing)業(ye)對(dui)安(an)全(quan)的(de)意(yi)識(shi)正(zheng)在(zai)逐(zhu)步(bu)的(de)增(zeng)強(qiang),對(dui)安(an)全(quan)的(de)需(xu)要(yao)越(yue)來(lai)越(yue)強(qiang),越(yue)來(lai)越(yue)高(gao)。麵(mian)對(dui)“震網事件”、“烏克蘭電網事件”,dajiadouyishidao,ruguowomenbuduigongkongxitongjiayizhongshi,buquanquanjiagu,zaochengdehouguojiushi,mouyigedifangdejichusheshifashengyiciyanzhongdewangluoanquanshiguzhihou,zaochengdesunshiwulunzhengzhiyingxiangyihuoshijingjiyingxiangdoushijudade,bukeguliangde。congzhenggeshichangdetourulaikan,woguoxianzaiduigongkongwangluoanquanzhekuaitouruxiangduijiaoshao,yinianzhiyoujishiyi,haibudaoyibaiyidetouzi,erruguofashengyiqianquanwangluoshigu,yigejichusheshidesunshijiuyoukenengchaoguobaiyi。suoyishuo,zhejiushiwomenyaojiaqiangwangluojichusheshianquandeyuanyin。chulejingjihezhengzhideyingxiangyinsu,zuizhongyaodehaishirenshenanquan,duiyukongzhixitonglaijiang,tadezuidawentijiushihuishejidaorenshenanquan。gushenxingzuoweizheyixingyedelingjunqiye,yezaijijidiyugegexingye,zhengfucengmianjieqia,womenyiheshengjidexinxianquancepingzhongxinjinxinghezuo,duiguanjiandeqiyejinxingjianzha,binggeichuwomendejiejuefanganbangtamenqujiaguzijidegongkongxitongwangluoanquan,weigongkongxingyedeanquangongxianzijideliliang。
另外,IOE化對國內廠商,無論是做安全的也好,服務器的也好,操作係統的也好都是一次機會。同時,我們也需要認識到國外對安全的意識、市shi場chang行xing為wei以yi及ji技ji術shu相xiang比bi國guo內nei還hai是shi領ling先xian的de,但dan是shi隨sui著zhe國guo外wai人ren才cai的de回hui歸gui,也ye帶dai回hui來lai一yi些xie比bi較jiao新xin的de理li念nian和he技ji術shu,這zhe使shi得de工gong控kong安an全quan領ling域yu的de整zheng體ti技ji術shu門men檻kan提ti升sheng了le不bu少shao。個ge人ren淺qian見jian:中國的安全企業不能閉門造車,要經常去國外學習、交流、研究國外最新的技術,並根據中國工控企業的實際應用情況消化吸收,研發出先進、可靠的產品出來,迎接即將騰飛的中國工控安全行業的發展。